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HERMS v2.0
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RE: HERMS v2.0
This post was last modified: 13.11.2017, 09:54 by spageti.
(20.01.2017, 11:29 )Quesheii Wrote: Pozdrav Spageti!
Planirao sam uskoro praviti HERMS slican tvom i prije nego pocnem sa izradom imam par nedoumica.Nadam se da ti nece biti tesko da mi odgovoriš na ova pitanja.

1. Koliki treba da je prostor između dna i laznog dna i da li je potrobno lazno dno variti za bure?
2. Na koji nacin vrsis tranfer vode iz HLT u MLT prilikom ispiranja?
3. Od cega su fleksibilna crijeva koja idu u pumpu i iz pumpe. Imaju li neki poseban naziv?
4. Da li L, T elementi i ventili mogu biti od nekog drugog materijala ili mora biti bas inox. Kod nas je cijena jednog inox ventila od ½ cola 15 eura pa te zato pitam?
5. Da li je bolje staviti termokontroler sa PID ili RTD sondom i imas li preporuku za neku firmu na ebay?
6. Vidim u HLT ima dvostruku spiralu ca cijevi unutrašnjeg promjera 9mm duzine 2x8m.
Da li se pokazalo optimalnim za odrzavanje temerature i protok ili bi mogao biti i veci promjer?
7. Interesuje me kako se sistem pokazao uopšteno. Da li si zadovoljan i da li si uocio neke slabe tacke?

Hvala unaprijed!

Pozdrav kolega,
oprosti što si čekao malo duže na odgovor ali nisam bio pri kompu ovih dana.

Lažno dno ne trebaš variti za dno bačve, jer ipak moraš očistiti sve što se zavuče ispod. Prostor kojeg dobiješ kada položiš lažno dno na dno bačve je taman.

Ispiranje radim ručno. Sustav je zamišljen da ima dvije pumpe; jedna za cirkulaciju sladovine, a druga za cirkulaciju vode u HLTu te bi se sa njom vršilo i ispiranje, no o tome ću jednog dana.
Samo da napomenem da je recirkulacija vode oko spirala HLTa od velike pomoći za stabilnost temeperature sladovine.
Može se napraviti nekakav mješač tekućine ili staviti pumpu t za recirkulaciju.
Ako bi radio ispiranje sa pumpom onda bi bilo dobro imati nivokazno staklo na HLT-u.

Fleksibilna crijeva su od inoxa, tzv korugirana crijeva.
Ja sam ih dao napraviti u http://www.matrex.hr/o-nama/item/14-koru...onudi.html

Možeš raditi od bakra cijeveovod tako da ti i T i L elemnti budu od bakra.
Ja sam ipak redje stavio sve od inoxa.
Na ebayu ti jedeno inox koljeno dodje 1$, a ventil 5$, samo je problem što dosta prodavača ne šalje za Bosnu.
Probaj malo proguglati.

PID je način upravljanja a RTD je vrsta sonde.
Ja sam uzimao kod ovog lika, a vidim da šalje za Bosnu, http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUAL-DISPLAY-PID...2314038296
Koristim On/Off regulaciju, jer mi se PID nije pokazao toliko efikasan.

Isao sam rađe dvije tanje cijevi u paralelu nego jedna deblja.
Na ovaj način sam dobio duplo više spirala na istom prostoru, a i mislim da seizmjena topline bolje odigrava na dvije cijevi manjeg volumena nego na jednoj cijevi većeg volumena.

Što se tiče sistema, jako sam zadovoljan kako je sve na kraju ispalo.
Moram ti napomenuti kako bi bilo dobro, „obući“ cijevovod i bačve u nekakav termoizolacijski materijal, jer sam primjetio pad temperature kroz cijevovod između HLT i MLT te cijevovod MLT-Pumpa-HLT.
Ja sam to napravio sa filcom i samoljepljivom aluminijskom trakom.

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Slikane su mobitelom pa su slabije kavlitete.

Nadam se da sam bio od pomoći.
Ako se sjetiš još kojeg pitanja, tu sam.
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HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 28.03.2016, 07:10
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by rafter - 28.03.2016, 08:17
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 28.03.2016, 08:24
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by rafter - 28.03.2016, 08:44
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Trigger - 28.03.2016, 08:35
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by mange_tout! - 28.03.2016, 08:48
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by danny_boy - 28.03.2016, 09:06
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by pivska mušica - 28.03.2016, 09:09
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by raix - 28.03.2016, 09:14
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by rookie - 28.03.2016, 09:17
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by zlimfur - 28.03.2016, 09:20
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Pivdzija - 28.03.2016, 10:09
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 28.03.2016, 10:10
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 29.03.2016, 10:26
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Goggy - 29.03.2016, 11:24
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Svarrogh - 29.03.2016, 12:40
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 29.03.2016, 01:01
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by zuzko - 29.03.2016, 02:23
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 29.03.2016, 03:23
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by boskoi - 29.03.2016, 08:38
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 29.03.2016, 09:42
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Pivarunajavi - 29.03.2016, 10:49
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 30.03.2016, 05:05
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Beerokrata - 30.03.2016, 06:34
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Pivarunajavi - 30.03.2016, 07:35
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 30.03.2016, 08:17
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Pivarunajavi - 30.03.2016, 09:38
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 30.03.2016, 10:26
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 30.03.2016, 04:21
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by p.Ivo - 04.04.2016, 04:27
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 04.04.2016, 04:50
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by p.Ivo - 04.04.2016, 06:16
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 04.04.2016, 08:47
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by p.Ivo - 04.04.2016, 08:54
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 04.04.2016, 09:28
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by p.Ivo - 04.04.2016, 10:34
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by rafter - 04.04.2016, 10:55
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 05.04.2016, 06:12
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by p.Ivo - 05.04.2016, 03:46
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by zlimfur - 01.08.2016, 12:04
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 01.08.2016, 01:54
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by zlimfur - 01.08.2016, 02:02
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by guđi - 09.10.2016, 10:14
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Quesheii - 20.01.2017, 11:29
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 21.01.2017, 02:57
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Quesheii - 22.01.2017, 09:16
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 23.01.2017, 11:21
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Quesheii - 23.01.2017, 05:15
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 23.01.2017, 05:56
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Quesheii - 23.01.2017, 10:44
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Dardanion - 23.01.2017, 11:36
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 24.01.2017, 07:22
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by mastermixxsb - 24.01.2017, 07:33
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Quesheii - 31.01.2017, 05:04
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 31.01.2017, 05:41
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Dardanion - 31.01.2017, 06:44
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 31.01.2017, 07:00
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by mastermixxsb - 31.01.2017, 07:15
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Quesheii - 01.02.2017, 01:30
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 01.02.2017, 07:37
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by svestenik - 01.02.2017, 08:33
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 01.02.2017, 10:43
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by svestenik - 01.02.2017, 10:52
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Quesheii - 01.02.2017, 12:01
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 01.02.2017, 12:59
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by svestenik - 01.02.2017, 01:06
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by zlimfur - 24.03.2017, 09:50
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 24.03.2017, 10:04
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by zlimfur - 24.03.2017, 10:08
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by bosniamaj - 06.05.2017, 11:57
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 07.05.2017, 08:53
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by bosniamaj - 07.05.2017, 09:17
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 23.08.2017, 06:20
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by zlimfur - 19.11.2017, 10:53
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 20.11.2017, 07:10
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Altoman - 27.11.2017, 06:34
HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 27.11.2017, 07:06
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Mornar - 05.03.2018, 08:56
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 05.03.2018, 09:14
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by zlimfur - 05.03.2018, 09:39
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by bhgr1 - 05.03.2018, 05:55
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Mornar - 06.03.2018, 12:47
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by bhgr1 - 06.03.2018, 12:57
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by svestenik - 06.03.2018, 01:00
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by bhgr1 - 06.03.2018, 05:29
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by rafter - 12.03.2018, 12:09
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by svestenik - 12.03.2018, 12:58
HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 03.06.2018, 09:36
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by bhgr1 - 04.06.2018, 07:33
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by zlimfur - 04.06.2018, 07:52
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by spageti - 04.06.2018, 07:54
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by bhgr1 - 05.06.2018, 01:43
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Žiko.L - 05.01.2019, 08:12
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by zlimfur - 05.01.2019, 10:16
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by pivopija87 - 07.01.2019, 02:43
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by PejaPivopija - 07.01.2019, 08:38
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by Žiko.L - 08.01.2019, 08:02
RE: HERMS v2.0 - by pivopija87 - 08.01.2019, 09:36
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