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aMater Kuhanja
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RE: aMater Kuhanja
(07.01.2018, 10:56 )lakosta88 Wrote: U medjuvremenu sam malo istrazivao. Neko pravilo je da se uvijek vrsi aeracija jer kisik jednostavno umrtvljeni kvasac koji je pao u hibernaciju dize na noge i stimulise na bolji rad,jacaju se zidovi na celijama i kvasac je jednostavno sretniji pa se moze ocekivati,ljepsa i brza fermentacija. To je u teoriji tako,s druge strane nisam uspio naci da dolazi do ne zeljenih okusa bez aeracije (kod sipanja na yeast cake) jer upravo ovo sto kaze zlimfur (overpitching) osigurava cist profil kvasca bez viska estera itd. Eh sada da li ova ista pravila vaze za sve vrste kvasaca i sve stilove piva to ne znam.
Mozda su neko naletili vec na ovo http://www.braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?title=Experiment_Pitching_Rate_and_Oxygenation
Iako su veca kolicina kvasca i kisika ubrzala fermentaciju nije bilo neke razlike u krajnjem proizvodu.
Nisam mislio da ce off flavor da se desi ako se ne aerira sladovina presuta oreko stare ture. Overpitch sam po sebi moze proizvesti off flavor u pivu. Evo sa how to brew slika, u slucaju da ima previse kvasca sta se moze desiti. Kazem moze se desiti, zato sto to ne znaci i obavezno ce se desiti. Imao sam te fusele u pivu i ne bih to pozelio vise. Takvo pivo je za prosipanja.

Razni eksperimenti su dobri, ali ne znace da je svaki overpitch dobar i da ce sigurno dovesti do dobrog i cistog piva.

Nismo mi prvi da diskutujemo o ovome, o ovome je vec puno pricano i razjasnjeno na raznim forumima.

Ne bih zelio da pametujem, nego samo da prenesem iz mog iskustva sta mi se pokazalo kao najsigurnije. Znaci paketic suhog kvasca na 20l do 25L piva prosjecnog gravitija je jedini garant ispravnog piva sve ostalo je lutrija (ili starter od 2L tekuceg za ale). Moze znaci svaka varijanta ali nije sigurno da ce sve i jedna tura biti identicna. Kod presipanja preko stare ture ima i otpada, i mrtvih stanica kvasca. Moguca je pojava i autolize. Kvasac se mijenja... Puno je tu faktora koji se mijenjaju i uticu na konacab proizvod.

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aMater Kuhanja - by Mater - 04.08.2017, 11:17
aMater Kuhanja - by Mater - 05.08.2017, 07:06
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aMater Kuhanja - by Mater - 08.08.2017, 03:50
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RE: aMater Kuhanja - by Mater - 20.08.2017, 01:20
RE: aMater Kuhanja - by pivska mušica - 20.08.2017, 01:48
RE: aMater Kuhanja - by Mater - 20.08.2017, 01:52
RE: aMater Kuhanja - by pivska mušica - 20.08.2017, 05:15
RE: aMater Kuhanja - by Mater - 20.08.2017, 05:31
RE: aMater Kuhanja - by pivska mušica - 21.08.2017, 10:02
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RE: aMater Kuhanja - by Stane - 03.09.2017, 08:25
RE: aMater Kuhanja - by Mater - 03.09.2017, 08:44
RE: aMater Kuhanja - by zlimfur - 03.09.2017, 12:48
RE: aMater Kuhanja - by Mater - 03.09.2017, 01:53
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RE: aMater Kuhanja - by lakosta88 - 06.11.2017, 12:43
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RE: aMater Kuhanja - by lakosta88 - 07.01.2018, 10:56
RE: aMater Kuhanja - by danny_boy - 07.01.2018, 11:19
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